Examining the claims of Jonathan Neville and the Heartland movement

Wednesday, October 7, 2020

Did Jonathan Neville watch General Conference?

It’s been four days since Apostle Garrit W. Gong, speaking in General Conference, declared that it was Moroni who showed the gold plates to Mary Whitmer.

Today—Wednesday, October 7, 2020—Jonathan Neville (again) asserted, in boldface type:
In the case of M2C,* the bias being confirmed is that the prophets are wrong.
Elder Gong is one of fifteen living men whom Latter-day Saints sustain multiple times each year as prophets, seers, and revelators.
October 2020 General Conference of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
Was Elder Gong wrong when he called Mary Whitmer “the faithful sister to whom Moroni showed the Book of Mormon plates”?

Maybe Jonathan Neville missed Elder Gong’s talk this weekend and isn’t aware of his statement.

Maybe Jonathan Neville listened to Elder Gong’s talk but was distracted when he made that remark.

Or perhaps Jonathan Neville heard Elder Gong’s remark, but he knows that the logical conclusion of his beliefs is to affirm that “the prophets were wrong,” so he’s just going to remain silent about this inconsistency.

Time will tell.

I know that I intend to hold his feet to the fire on this one.

—Peter Pan

* “M2C” is Jonathan Neville’s acronym for the theory that the Book of Mormon took place in Mesoamerica and that the hill Cumorah in the Book of Mormon is not the same hill in New York where Joseph Smith received the plates of Mormon.

2 comments:

  1. I don't recall the word 'Cumorah' coming up in 10 hours of conference broadcasts. They've all been hoodwinked.

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    1. The last time “Cumorah” was uttered in General Conference by an apostle or member of the First Presidency was all the way back in October 2003 (seventeen years ago!), when Elder Robert D. Hales taught:

      “[The angel Moroni told Joseph Smith] of an ancient record written upon gold plates, which, when translated, became the Book of Mormon. The book contained a record of the fulness of the gospel, as taught to Moroni’s ancestors by Jesus Christ. Joseph was directed to obtain that record, buried near his family’s home in a nearby hill, which is now called Cumorah.”

      Notice his use of phrasing: “Which is now called Cumorah.” This clearly implies that the hill wasn’t called Cumorah before that time.

      To find a General Conference talk that affirms the hill Cumorah of the Book of Mormon is the same hill in New York State, Jonathan Neville has to go back over forty years to the late 1970s. If the location of the hill is so important, it seems odd to me that no living prophet or apostle has EVER unambiguously declared it.

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