Examining the claims of Jonathan Neville and the Heartland movement

Monday, May 25, 2020

Please define “many”

Jonathan Neville asserts:
Many Church members are asking, “Why have so many LDS intellectuals repudiated the teachings of the prophets about the New York Cumorah?”

Others ask, “Why have so many LDS people followed the M2C intellectuals?”
Perhaps Neville would be so kind as to define many for us, because I’ve certainly never heard anyone ask either of those questions—not in Gospel Doctrine classes, not in Institute or adult religion classes, not even on social media. Not once.

In fact, the only person I’ve encountered who has asked those questions is Neville himself.

One is not “many.”

Perhaps he should be asking, “Why do the prophets say there’s nothing revealed about where the location of Cumorah is?”

—Peter Pan

* “M2C” is Jonathan Neville’s acronym for the theory that the Book of Mormon took place in Mesoamerica and that the hill Cumorah in the Book of Mormon is not the same hill in New York where Joseph Smith received the plates of Mormon.


  1. In my experience, not only have I never heard any one ask these questions, no one has ever even brought up the location of Cumorah as a serious issue, or even an issue at all.

    1. Exactly. Until the Heartlanders began making a fuss about the location of the hill Cumorah, I never heard anyone argue against a Mesoamerican Book of Mormon geography, let alone claim that it was “rejecting the prophets.”

      Nevilleʼs questions are his own invention. He got people sick and then sold them the (supposed) cure.


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